תלמוד על שמואל א 1:9
Tractate Kallah Rabbati
BARAITHA.50K 19 which reads ‘is a transgressor’ instead of ‘is liable to the death [penalty]’. Whoever deliberately causes an erection is liable to the death [penalty].
GEMARA. R. Ashi said: Whoever deliberately causes an erection should be excommunicated. Let him say, ‘It is forbidden because he excites the evil inclination against himself’! Deduce from it that it is forbidden to touch the pudenda, as it has been taught:51Nid. 13a (Sonc. ed., p. 85). Whoever touches his membrum when urinating is as though he brought a flood upon the world. Why? Touching leads to excitement and excitement leads to passion. It has been taught:52ibid. 13a, b (Sonc. ed., pp. 87f.). There is, however, a limit; from the corona downwards53The text is corrected in agreement with the Talmud. V reverses ‘upwards’ and ‘downwards’. [touching] is permitted and from the corona upwards54In the direction of the body. it is forbidden. When does this apply? Only with an unmarried man, but with a married man we are not afraid [that it will excite him]. Similarly it can be declared:55Cf. Keth. 65a (Sonc. ed., p. 393). One cup [of wine] is becoming to a woman, two are degrading, [after] three she solicits publicly, [after] four even if an ass makes improper overtures56The reading in Keth. is: ‘she solicits an ass in the street’. to her she is not particular. This applies only [to a woman] whose husband is not with her; but if her husband is with her the matter remains in doubt.57In Keth.: ‘the objection to her drinking does not arise’.
An objection was raised: [It is stated,] So Hannah rose up after she had eaten in Shiloh and after he had drunk:581 Sam. 1, 9, after they had eaten … they had drunk. it does not say ‘she had drunk’ but he had drunk! This teaches that no allowance for wine is made for a woman.59Cf. Keth. 65a (Sonc. ed., p. 393). And should you argue that her husband was with her [so why did not Hannah drink? I answer] that it was different since they were guests and guests are not permitted to have cohabitation.60And drinking may lead to cohabitation. But there61Where it was taught that a woman may drink when her husband is with her. the intention of both [husband and wife] was to return [home immediately].
GEMARA. R. Ashi said: Whoever deliberately causes an erection should be excommunicated. Let him say, ‘It is forbidden because he excites the evil inclination against himself’! Deduce from it that it is forbidden to touch the pudenda, as it has been taught:51Nid. 13a (Sonc. ed., p. 85). Whoever touches his membrum when urinating is as though he brought a flood upon the world. Why? Touching leads to excitement and excitement leads to passion. It has been taught:52ibid. 13a, b (Sonc. ed., pp. 87f.). There is, however, a limit; from the corona downwards53The text is corrected in agreement with the Talmud. V reverses ‘upwards’ and ‘downwards’. [touching] is permitted and from the corona upwards54In the direction of the body. it is forbidden. When does this apply? Only with an unmarried man, but with a married man we are not afraid [that it will excite him]. Similarly it can be declared:55Cf. Keth. 65a (Sonc. ed., p. 393). One cup [of wine] is becoming to a woman, two are degrading, [after] three she solicits publicly, [after] four even if an ass makes improper overtures56The reading in Keth. is: ‘she solicits an ass in the street’. to her she is not particular. This applies only [to a woman] whose husband is not with her; but if her husband is with her the matter remains in doubt.57In Keth.: ‘the objection to her drinking does not arise’.
An objection was raised: [It is stated,] So Hannah rose up after she had eaten in Shiloh and after he had drunk:581 Sam. 1, 9, after they had eaten … they had drunk. it does not say ‘she had drunk’ but he had drunk! This teaches that no allowance for wine is made for a woman.59Cf. Keth. 65a (Sonc. ed., p. 393). And should you argue that her husband was with her [so why did not Hannah drink? I answer] that it was different since they were guests and guests are not permitted to have cohabitation.60And drinking may lead to cohabitation. But there61Where it was taught that a woman may drink when her husband is with her. the intention of both [husband and wife] was to return [home immediately].
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