Talmud su II Cronache 3:19

HALAKHAH: “There are four New Year’s Days,” etc. It is written⁴Ex. 12:2. The verse establishes that months are counted from the month of the spring equinox, post-exilic (Accadic) called Nisan., this month shall be for you the head of the months. For you it is the head of the months but it is head neither for years nor for Sabbatical periods nor for Jubilees⁵It is clear from Lev.25 that Sabbaticals and Jubilees are counted from the end of the agricultural year in the month of the fall equinox. nor for planting⁶To determine the years of `orlah, when no fruit may be taken. nor for vegetables⁷To determine the year for purposes of the tithe since inferred from Deut. 14:22, which requires agricultural tithe being given year by year, that no tithe may be given from produce of one year for produce grown in another.. And I could say, for you it is the head of the months but it is head neither for kings nor for holidays. Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa, Rebbi Yasa in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: It is written⁸2Chr.3:2., he started to build in the second month, in the second,⁹The text is ambiguous. The later derivations read it as a repetition: He started to build in the second month, the second month of the fourth year; in the style of Gen. 8:5. If the same number is used to describe the month in the sequence of months and the month in the year, it follows that the year must start with month one. in the fourth year of his reign. It bracketed the fourth year of his reign with the second of the months. Since the second of the months is only counted from Nisan, also the second in the fourth year of his reign is only counted from Nisan. Or is it only the second in the month? Any place where the second day in the month is intended it is explicit¹⁰This is how the unofficial Targum of 2Chr.3:2 reads it: He started to build on the second day of the second month of the fourth year; a reading also rejected in the Babli 3a since it always is stated as “day nin the month.”. Or is it only the second in the week? We do not find this count in the Torah¹¹Babli 3a.. But is it not written, it was evening and it was morning, the second day¹²Gen. 1:8.? One makes no inferences from the Creation of the World¹³Since they are God’s days, not human days.. Which one is the second of the months and which one is the second of the years¹⁴In 2Chr.3:2.? Rebbi Ḥanania and Rebbi Mana. One said, he started to build in the second month, that is the second of the months; in the second, that is the second in the year. But the other one, even if you switch it does not change anything. Rebbi Simeon bar Karsana in the name of Rebbi Aḥa understood it from the following: This month is for you, an exclusion. The first it be for you, [an exclusion.] An exclusion after an exclusion is to include¹⁵A general principle in both Talmudim. Peah6:9 Note 154, Yebamot 12:1 Note10, Soṭah 9:2 Note 63, Horaiot1:1 Note 9 q. v., Megillah4:4 75b l.14; Babli Megillah23b, Yoma43a, Bava qamma15b, Bava batra15a, Sanhedrin15a,44b,66a, Makkot9b, Ševuot7b, Menaḥot9b,67a, Ḥulin132a. for kings and holidays. Could one include for years, or for Sabbatical periods, or for Jubilees, or for planting, or for vegetables? Following what Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa, Rebbi Yasa in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan said: It is written, he started to build in the second month, in the second, in the fourth year of his reign. It bracketed the fourth year of his reign with the second of the months. Since the second of the months is only counted from Nisan, also the second in the fourth year of his reign is only counted from Nisan. Rebbi Jonah, Rebbi Isaac bar Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Joseph: He started to build in the second month, that is the second of the months; in the second, that is the second in the year. And when he says, in the fourth year of his reign, it bracketed the fourth year of his reign with the second of the months. Since the second of the months is only counted from Nisan, also the second in the fourth year of his reign is only counted from Nisan. Samuel stated and disagreed¹⁶He holds that the count of years depends on the political circumstances.: In the third month of the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt¹⁷Ex. 19:1.. From here that one counts months from the exodus from Egypt. Not only months, from where years? The Eternal spoke to Moses in the wilderness of Sinai in the second year¹⁸Num. 9:1.. Not only at that time, from where later? In the fortieth year of the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt¹⁹Num. 33:38. Babli 2b. Not only temporarily, from where for later generations? It was in the 480th year of the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt²⁰1K.6:1., etc. After the Temple had been built they started to count from its building: It was at the end of twenty years after Salomon built the two houses²¹1K. 9:1.. They did not merit to count from its building, they started counting from its destruction: In the twenty-fifth year of our exile, on New Year’s Day, on the tenth of the month²²Ez. 40:1. In a Jubilee year, New Year’s day is moved to the Day of Atonement; cf. the author’s edition of Seder Olam(Northvale 1998), pp. 118–119, Note 4., etc. They did not merit to count for themselves, they started counting regnal years, [as it is written,] in year two of Darius²³Ḥaggai1:1.; in year three of Cyrus, king of Persia²⁴Dan. 10:1.. And I am saying, ⁸2Chr.3:2.he started to build in the second month, in the second, in the fourth year of his reign. It bracketed the fourth year of his reign with the second of the months. Since the second of the months is only counted from Nisan, also the second in the fourth year of his reign is only counted from Nisan.

“With one cubit between them.” Rebbi Hila said, this⁵⁴That in contrast to the First temple, the Second had two gobelins, the interior one belonging to the Holiest of Holies and the exterior one belonging to the Temple Hall, with a cubit in between. The problem whether the cubit between interior and exterior gobelins belongs to the Temple Hall or the Holies of Holies is quoted as undecidable in Kilaim 8:5 where part of the text is found (Notes 93–95) and Babli 52a. is hinted at as we have stated there⁵⁵Mishnah Middot 4:7., “One cubit taraqsin, twenty cubits for the building of the Holiest of Holies.” What is “one cubit taraqsin”? Rebbi Jonah from Bostra said, “confusion”, what is inside-outside⁵⁶Jastrow’s conjecture that טרקסין is Greek τάραξιν, accusative of τάραξις, “confusion”; cf. Kilaim 8:5 Note 93.. Rebbi Yose said, since it is written⁵⁷1K. 6:17., forty cubits was the House, that is the inner Temple, it means that it is counted inside. Rebbi Mana said to him, but it is written⁵⁸2Chr. 3:8. Since the reports about the first Temple do not mention the cubit in between, all they prove is that the interior gobelin belongs to the Holiest of Holies and the exterior one to the Temple Hall., he made the building of the Holiest of Holies,…, twenty cubits, it means that it is counted outside. What is the rabbis’ reason? The gobelin shall separate for you⁵⁹Ex. 26:33. This is R. Yose’s (the Tanna) reason that only one gobelin is possible between the Temple Hall and the Holiest of Holies. How can the rabbis explain the verse?, etc.? What does Rebbi Yose do with this⁶⁰In this and the next sentence, the places of “R. Yose” and “the rabbis” have to be switched since the simple meaning of the verse supports R. Yose. Tosephta 2:12. Between the Holiest of Holies above and the Holiest of Holies below⁶¹The rabbis will dispute that even in the first Temple there was only one gobelin. Since there must be an opening for the High Priest to enter the Holiest of Holies, a complete separation so that the Holiest of Holies cannot be seen from the Temple Hall requires a minimum of two gobelins, one being closed at the place where the other is open. But on the roof of the building there was only one separating line.. Do the rabbis not have this? They have it as we have stated⁶²Mishnah Middot 4:5., “the impression of pebbles⁶³Greek ψῆφος. distinguish above between holy and the Holiest of Holies.”

HALAKHAH: “Whether one entered the courtyard,” etc. ⁵⁴This Halakhah is a very truncated and inferior copy of parts of Sanhedrin1:5 (Notes 288–294). The second paragraph is from the end of that Halakhah, Note 326. Its inclusion indicates that all of that Halakhah should be studied here. Rav said, at the start: ⁵⁵2S.24:19.David ascended following Gad’s word, that is King and Prophet. ⁵⁶2Chr. 3:1.Solomon started to build the Temple of the Eternal in Jerusalem, these are Urim and Tummim. ⁵⁶2Chr. 3:1.And his father David, this is the Synhedrion, ⁵⁷Deut. 32:7.ask your father and he will tell you. Song, after them went Hoshaia and the officers⁵⁸Neh. 12:32.. Thanksgiving sacrifices, I put up two thanksgiving sacrifices⁵⁹Neh. 12:31.. Rebbi Samuel bar Rebbi Yudan said, what is written, walking? No, being in procession.

“One may start a war of choice only by the court of 71 [judges]²⁸⁷This probably should be deleted.. ²⁸⁸The following four paragraphs do not refer to the quote of the Mishnah but are a commentary to Mishnah Ševuot 2:2: “One only adds to the city and the Temple courtyards by king and prophet, Urim and Tummim, the Synhedrion of 71 members, two thanksgiving sacrifices, and song.” Only the walled part of the city of Jerusalem counts as “before the Eternal”, where family sacrifices may be consumed (Deut.12:18,14:23); the suburbs are “countryside” which does not count for pilgrimage and sacrifice. Since there were no Urim and Tummim in the Second Temple, Pharisees did not consume sacrifices in the parts of Jerusalem which were added in Hasmonean and later times (Note 306).
In Ševuot, only beginning and end of the discussion here are quoted as a reference. Rebbi Jehudah says, as at the start: ²⁸⁹2S. 24:19, speaking of David going to buy the Temple area.David ascended following Gad’s word, that is king and prophet. ²⁹⁰2Chr. 3:1. The verse is misquoted in several places.Solomon started to build the Temple of the Eternal, Israel’s God, on Mount Moriah where He had appeared to him, there are Urim and Tummim. ²⁹⁰2Chr. 3:1. The verse is misquoted in several places.To his father David, this is the Synhedrion, ²⁹¹Deut. 32:7. The persons one asks to get definitive answers to all questions of religion are the members of the High Court of 71 members.ask your father and he will tell you, your Elders and they will speak to you. Song, after them went Hoshaia and half the officers of Judea²⁹²Neh. 12:32. This refers to the members of the Synhedrion walking behind the thanksgiving sacrifices (Ševuot 15b); the musical part of the ceremony is described in verses 41,42.. Thanksgiving sacrifices, I put up two large thanksgiving sacrifices being in procession going to their right on the wall going to the dung gate²⁹³Neh. 12:31.. Rebbi Samuel bar Yudan said, what is written, walking? No, being in procession, only being taken by others²⁹⁴In his opinion, the sacrifices were not walked on the wall but were carried. In the opinion of the Babli, Ševuot 15a and Tosephta Sanhedrin 3:4, not the animals were carried but the leavened bread required for a thanksgiving sacrifice (Lev. 7:13). It is possible that this is meant here..

⁹⁸Babli 44b, Midrash Hazita (Shir rabba) 3(17) on 3:9, Num. rabba 12. There are seven kinds of gold: good gold ⁹⁹Gen.2:12., pure gold¹⁰⁰Ex. 24:11,24; 25:17,32,36,37; 37:2,6, closed gold¹⁰¹IK. 7:50., Mufaz gold¹⁰²Dan. 10:5., refined gold¹⁰³“Refined” is found in the Bible only applied to silver, see the Halakhah., drawn gold¹⁰⁴1K. 10:10, 17, 2Chr. 9:15, 16., Parwayim gold¹⁰⁵2Chr. 3:6..

Rebbi Ḥiyya in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: There are six unresolved doubts. The caper-bush among trees following the House of Shammai⁸⁶In Halakhah 5:6, the House of Shammai make the capeṛbush subject to the restrictions both of vegetables and of trees (Note 92)., clay vessels like potash vessels following the House of Shammai⁸⁷Tosephta Kelim Baba Qama 2:1: “Vessels made of potash, the House of Shammai say they may become impure from the inside and their airspace like clay vessels and from the outside like metal vessels.” Clay vessels cannot become impure if an impurity touches their outside, cf. Berakhot Chapter Eight, Note 51., the squirrel mole among the crawling things following the House of Shammai⁸⁸In the Mishnah here.; the Egyptian bean among seed-vegetables⁸⁹Halakhah 3:2., the hermaphrodite among humans⁹⁰Whether he is treated as a male or a female. This is detailed in Tosephta Bikkurim 2., the koi among wild animals according to everybody⁹¹Tosephta Bikkurim 2:1. Hulin 80a: "Koi is the wild goat; some people say it comes from a male goat and a female deer. Rebbi Yose said, koi is a separate species and the Sages were unable to decide whether it follows the rules of domesticated animals or those of wild animals." The difference between domesticated and wild kasher animals is explained in Chapter 1, Note 104.. Rebbi Ḥama bar Uqba said, also the ṭrīqsīn cubit⁹²The space in the Temple between the holy and the holiest of holies parts. The problem is whether it is part of the Temple hall or of the holiest of holies.. What is the ṭrīqsīn cubit? Rebbi Jonah from Bostra said, confusion⁹³Jastrow’s explanation is Greek τάραξιν, accusative of τάραξις “confusion”. [Maimonides (Commentary to Middot 4:7) declares the word to be the name of the dividing wall in the first Temple.] A Gaonic commentary to Yoma explains טרקסין by an Arabic word בראסתג of unknown meaning. Arukh and Rashi declare טרקסין (spelling of Mishnah Middot 4:7) to be a Greek word and “inside-outside” its meaning. Compare Latin intro, adv. “inside” and extra, adv. “outside” for composite inTREXtra (E. G.)., “what is inside-outside?” Rebbi Yose said, since it is written (1K. 6:17) “forty cubits was the House, that is the inner Temple,” it means it is counted inside⁹⁴Since no provision is made for the wall, the wall is not part of the main part of the main room of the Temple but must be under the rules of the holiest of holies.. Rebbi Mana said to him, but it is written (2Chr. 3:8) “He made the holiest of holies twenty cubits long and ten wide,⁹⁵That verse is badly misquoted: ויעש את בית קדשי הקדשים ארכו על פני רחב הבית אמות עשרים ורחבו אמות עשרים. It makes no difference for the objection.” that means it is counted outside.

(2Chr. 3:1) On Mount Moriah²⁴¹This Aggadah is a continuation of the previous discussion about the place of the Holiest of Holies, which was on Mount Moriah. An enlarged parallel is in Berešit rabba 55(9); a very shortened version is in Babli Taänit 16a.
מוֹריה is taken either from the root הוֹרה “to teach, direct” or from מוֹרָא “fear”. ארוֹן is taken either as abstractum from אוֹר “light” or from ארה “to curse” (the unbelievers). The use of דִּבֵּר “Divine inspiration” in the explanation of דביר is from Jer. 5:13. דבר denoting one of the Ten Commandments is found in Deut. 4:13.. The Great Rebbi Ḥiyya and Rebbi Yannai, one of them said that from there teaching goes out to the world, the other one said that from there fear goes out to the world. Ark. The Great Rebbi Ḥiyya and Rebbi Yannai, one of them said that from there light goes out to the world, the other one said that from there curse goes out to the world. Temple Hall. Rebbi Ḥiyya and Rebbi Yannai, one of them said that from there inspiration goes out to the world, the other one said that from there the commandments go out to the world.