Talmud zu Jehoschua 7:2
וַיִּשְׁלַח֩ יְהוֹשֻׁ֨עַ אֲנָשִׁ֜ים מִֽירִיח֗וֹ הָעַ֞י אֲשֶׁ֨ר עִם־בֵּ֥ית אָ֙וֶן֙ מִקֶּ֣דֶם לְבֵֽית־אֵ֔ל וַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֲלֵיהֶם֙ לֵאמֹ֔ר עֲל֖וּ וְרַגְּל֣וּ אֶת־הָאָ֑רֶץ וַֽיַּעֲלוּ֙ הָאֲנָשִׁ֔ים וַֽיְרַגְּל֖וּ אֶת־הָעָֽי׃
Josua schickte unterdessen Männer von Jericho nach Ai, welches bei Bet Awen im Osten von Bet El, und sprach zu ihnen also: Ziehet hin und kundschaftet das Land aus. Und es zogen die Männer hin und kundschafteten Ai aus.
Jerusalem Talmud Shabbat
What is Rebbi Aqiba’s reason? You should treat it as an abomination44Deut. 7:26., like a menstruating woman. What is the rabbis’ reason? You should detest it, like vermin. How do the rabbis uphold Rebbi Aqiba’s reason, you should treat it as abomination? Treat it as excrement, make it vile45Babli 46a, Mekhilta dR. Ismael Mišpatim 20 (p. 332 ed. Horovitz-Rabin).. How does Rebbi Aqiba uphold the rabbis’ reason, you should treat it as abomination? Call it feces, treat it as excrement, make it vile. From where “make it vile” for the rabbis? Rebbi Samuel, Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: you shall call it excrement; treat it as excrement, make it vile What is called King’s Face is called Dog’s Face. Spring of the Cup Spring of the Thorn. The Place of Fortune Place of Undress46All these places and most of their idolatrous or obscene meanings are unknown. A similar list is as Tannaitic text in the Babli 46a, Tosephta 6:4. [Perhaps כוס should be read as كُس “behind”, in particular as part of the female anatomy (E. G.)]. Rebbi Tanḥuma in the name of Rav Huna: The Ai which is near Bet-Awen East of Bethel47Jos. 7:2.. Earlier it was called Bethel but now one calls it Bet-Awen48It seems that the translator of the LXX read the verse in the way of the Talmud and eliminated the mention of Bet-Awen, “the House of Iniquity”, as a gloss, as accepted by the moderns. (However, E. Täubler in a marginal Note to his copy of M. Noth’s Das Buch Josua, Tübingen 1938, identifies Bet-Awen as the old name of “The Ai (ruin)”; cf. Arabic ١ون “calm, tranquillity”.). It was stated in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: If one does not want to call it ‘Omda one calls it ‘Amida49Yalqut Jos. ad 7:2; Gen. rabba 39(24), on Gen. 12:8. since Rebbi Abba bar Cahana said, there one calls a good deed ˋomda50Syriac עמד. but the flow of urine ‘amida51Greek ἀμίς, -ίδος, ἡ, “chamber pot” (identified by Musaphia.). How does Rebbi Aqiba interpret you shall call it excrement? Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abin, Rav Huna in the name of Rav Joseph52Since Rav Joseph lived two generations after Rav Huna, one has to read with the text in Avodah zarah: Rebbi Ḥuna.: from here that one does not tell anybody to leave unless he entered with his head and most of his body.
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Jerusalem Talmud Avodah Zarah
What is Rebbi Aqiba’s reason? You should treat it as an abomination193Deut. 7:26., like a menstruating woman. What is the rabbis’ reason? You should detest it, like vermin. How do the rabbis uphold Rebbi Aqiba’s reason, you should treat it as abomination? Treat it as excrement, make it vile194ש has an addition: How does R. Aqiba interpret the rabbi’s reason, you should detest it? Detest it, make it vile. Babli 46a, Mekhilta dR. Ismael Mišpatim 20 (p. 332 ed. Horovitz-Rabin).. What means “make it vile” for the rabbis? Rebbi Samuel, Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: you shall call it excrement. What is called God’s195In ש: King’s face.. Face is called Dog’s Face. Spring of the Cup is called Spring of the Thorn. The Place of Fortune is called the Place of Undress196All these places and most of their idolatrous meanings are unknown. A similar list is as Tannaitic text in the Babli 46a, Tosephta 6:4. Rebbi Tanḥuma (asked) [in the name of]197The reading of Avodah zarah is in (parentheses), that of Šabbat in [brackets]. Rebbi Huna: It is written198Jos. 7:2., The Ai which is near Bet-Awen East of Bethel. Earlier it was called Bethel but now one calls it Bet-Awen199It seems that the translator of the LXX read the verse in the way of the Talmud and eliminated the mention of Bet-Awen, “the House of Iniquity”, as a gloss, as accepted by the moderns. (However, E. Täubler in a marginal Note to his copy of M. Noth’s Das Buch Josua, Tübingen 1938, identifies Bet-Awen as the old name of “The Ai (ruin)”; cf. Arabic اون “calm, tranquillity”.). It was stated in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: If one does not want to call it ‘Omda one calls it ‘Amida since the flow of urine is called ‘amida200This piece is truncated here but it is in bad shape both here and in Šabbat (and Yalqut Jos. ad 7:2). It is intelligible in Gen. rabba 39(24), on Gen. 12:8, the first mention of The Ai in the Bible, following the interpretation of J. Levy:
ויעתק משם ההרה מקדם לבית אל. לשעבר היתה נקראת בית אל ועכשיו היא נקראת בית און. א״ר אלעזר לא זכתה להקראת בית העמל הרי היא הקראת בית העמד. תמן קרײן לפועלא טבא עמילה ולהרהון של מימי רגלים עמידה.
He transferred from there to the mountain, East of Bethel. In the past it was called Bethel but now it is called Bet Awen. Rebbi Eleazar said, it did not merit to be called the House of Work but it is called the House of Baptism. There, they are calling a good worker عَمِل but the chamber pot ἀμίδα.. How (do the rabbis) [does Rebbi Aqiba]197The reading of Avodah zarah is in (parentheses), that of Šabbat in [brackets]. interpret you shall call it excrement? Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abin, Rebbi Huna in the name of Rav Josef: from (where) [here]197The reading of Avodah zarah is in (parentheses), that of Šabbat in [brackets]. that one does not tell anybody to leave unless he entered with his head and most of his body.
ויעתק משם ההרה מקדם לבית אל. לשעבר היתה נקראת בית אל ועכשיו היא נקראת בית און. א״ר אלעזר לא זכתה להקראת בית העמל הרי היא הקראת בית העמד. תמן קרײן לפועלא טבא עמילה ולהרהון של מימי רגלים עמידה.
He transferred from there to the mountain, East of Bethel. In the past it was called Bethel but now it is called Bet Awen. Rebbi Eleazar said, it did not merit to be called the House of Work but it is called the House of Baptism. There, they are calling a good worker عَمِل but the chamber pot ἀμίδα.. How (do the rabbis) [does Rebbi Aqiba]197The reading of Avodah zarah is in (parentheses), that of Šabbat in [brackets]. interpret you shall call it excrement? Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abin, Rebbi Huna in the name of Rav Josef: from (where) [here]197The reading of Avodah zarah is in (parentheses), that of Šabbat in [brackets]. that one does not tell anybody to leave unless he entered with his head and most of his body.
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