Les Proverbes 23:25 Références du Talmud : Jerusalem Talmud Taanit, Berakhot & Taanit

HALAKHAH: “Simeon ben Shataḥ sent to him and told him, you should be excommunicated.” For if there had been a decision made as it was decided in the days of Elijah¹⁰⁶When the decision about rainfall was delegated by God to Elijah (1K. 17:1; cf. Sanhedrin 10:2, Notes 147ff.)., would you not have caused a desecration of the Name in public¹⁰⁷If the decision had been given into the hands of another holy man, his prayer would have been ineffective and people would conclude that prayer is ineffective and stop praying.? And everybody who causes a public desecration of the Name must be excommunicated. [There, we have stated: Rabban Gamliel sent to him, if you hinder the public you will cause a deluge. Would you not hinder the public from performing a meritorious act? And any who would hinder the public from performing a meritorious act must be excommunicated.]¹⁰⁸Corrector’s addition; totally garbled copy from Roš Haššanah 1:5, Note 279. He answered him, but does not the Holy One, praise to Him, cancel His decision because of the decision of a just person¹⁰⁹This is the standard interpretation of Ps. 145:19, the pleasure of those who fear Him He will do and similar verses as explained in the next paragraph. Babli Mo`ed qaṭan 16b.? He said to him, [yes]¹¹⁰Corrector’s addition, unnecessary.. The Holy One, praise to Him, may cancel His decision because of the decision of a just person, but He will not cancel the decision of one just person because of the decision of his just colleague¹¹¹This is the essence of the reference to Elijah..

"Who acts arrogantly towards the Most High" ; where is this to be found? There is a Mishnaic teaching : Simeon b. Shetah sent to Honi Hamme'aggel : "Thou art deserving of excommunication, and wert thou not Honi, I would pronounce the ban against thee ; but what can I do seeing that thou art petulant with the Omnipresent, and nevertheless He fulfils thy desires as a father gratifies a petulant child ; and concerning thee the Scriptures state, 'Let thy father and thy mother be glad, and let her that bore thee rejoice ' (Prov. xxiii. 25)." Is there no other instance [of arrogance towards God]?

But what will I do to you, for you sin against the Omnipresent and he does as you wish like a son who sins against his father and he does as he wishes, and he says to him 'Father take me to bathe in hot water, wash me in cold water, give me nuts, almonds, peaches, and pomegranates!' and he gives them to him. And the verse says regarding you (Proverbs 23:25) 'Let thy father and thy mother be glad, and let her that bore thee rejoice.'"