Rujukan Talmud untuk Imamat 17:15: Jerusalem Talmud Nazir & Jerusalem Talmud Yoma

A “torn” [creature] that was turned into a carcass⁷²If a “torn” animal was not slaughtered according to the rules, is the meat forbidden under one or two statutes?. Rebbi Yasa, the son of Rebbi Yasa’s daughter, in the name of Rebbi Jeremiah: Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish disagree. Rebbi Joḥanan says, he is guilty twice; Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, he is guilty only once. Rebbi Eleazar ben Rebbi Yose said before Rebbi Yose, the following⁷³Sifra Aḥare Pereq 11(8). supports Rebbi Joḥanan: “ ‘Any person who would eat any carcass meat⁷⁴Lev. 17:15.,’ why does the verse say ‘and torn’? If a ‘torn’ animal can survive, was ‘carcass meat’ mentioned before⁷⁵No animal is ritually impure while alive. [Even the “impure” animals forbidden as food (Lev. 11:26, Deut. 14:9) are ritually pure while alive.] If a “torn” animal can survive and was ritually slaughtered, it does not become impure.? If a ‘torn’ animal must die, is it not included in ‘carcass meat’ ”⁷⁶If a “torn” animal must die in the short run, it simply becomes impure as a carcass. The mention of “torn” in the verse seems superfluous; it can only be justified as adding another prohibition. (In Sifra, the argument is inverted to prove that a “torn” animal, if ritually slaughtered, is not impure even as it is forbidden food.)? Should he not say, it is carcass meat? Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Yose ben Ḥanina: The reason of Rebbi Yose⁷⁷Who seems to accept his son’s argument.: “Do not defile yourself by animals and birds⁷⁸The argument refers to the part of the verse, Lev. 20:25, which is not quoted: “Do not defile yourself by animals and birds, and anything which crawls on the ground, which I separated for you as impure.” Now anything crawling on the ground (and in the water) is forbidden as food, but impurity caused by dead bodies is restricted to mammals, birds, and the Eight Reptiles enumerated in Lev. 11:29–30.,” but only the Eight Reptiles impart impurity! But the measure of their impurities is the measure of their uses as food⁷⁹Since even in biblical usage, mammals and birds acceptable as food are called “pure” (Gen. 8:20). By inference, non-kosher animals are called “impure” even while alive and technically pure.. Rebbi Eleazar objected⁸⁰To R. Abbahu.: May not the limbs of pure animals impart impurity in the most minute amount⁸¹Mishnah Ahilut 1:7. but as food only in the volume of an olive? He accepted it. What is meant by “he accepted it”? Like a person who said, the opponent accepted it. Ḥiyya bar Abba said: “You shall not [eat] any carcass meat.” The Torah identified all eating together. Rebbi Ḥanina objected: Is not the impurity of the Eight Reptiles in the size of a lentil, but as food in the volume of an olive, whether for blood or for meat⁸²In the Babli, Me‘ilah 15b, R. Yose ben R. Ḥanina states, as explanation of his inference (Note 78) that eating parts of any of the Eight Reptiles is prosecutable in amounts the size of a lentil (Maimonides Ma‘akhalot asurot 2:7). The identity of the rules for blood and flesh of these reptiles is Mishnah Me‘ilah 4:3, for the rules of impurity Sifra Šemini Parašah 5(2), Pereq 7(6).?

Rebbi Eleazar asked, do bulls and he-goats to be burned cause impurity of garments¹³³One has to delete this and replace it with “of foodstuffs”. Garments become impure only from sources of severe impurity, but foodstuffs become impure even from impurity which is not transmissible to human bodies or garments. Since the question is asked whether the carcasses cause impurity even before they are taken out, there cannot be any question of severe impurity at this point in time. Babli Zevaḥim 105a. without preparation¹³⁴Foodstuffs in general can become impure only after “preparation” by contact with water; cf. Terumot 1:1 Note 7. Since the basis of this rule is Lev. 11:38 referring to grain which cannot become severely impure, it is concluded that severe impurity makes foodstuffs impure even without preparation. and without impurity¹³⁵The carcasses of bulls and he-goats to be burned, as well as the carcass of the Red Cow, cause severe impurity to the people occupied with it but they themselves are pure; Mishnah Parah 8:3, Babli Zebaḥim105a.. since at the end they become sources of severe impurity? Samuel from Cappadocia objected, then they should make their parts¹³⁶The inner parts (of the bulls of the Anointed Priest and the Congregation) which have to be burned on the altar; cf. Chapter 5 Note 155. impure. So only after they were taken away. And even if you are saying before they were taken away, parallel to the following: purifying water does not make anything impure to make itself impure in return¹³⁷The person who purifies another by sprinkling him with water containing ashes of the Red Cow becomes impure (Num.19:21) but the water itself remains pure in his hands, while in general an impure person makes water which he touches impure in the first degree.. Rebbi Jeremiah objected, does not a carcass of a pure bird make food impure without preparation, without impurity, since at the end it becomes a source of severe impurity¹³⁸Mishnah Tahorot 1:1; Sifra Aḥare Pereq 11(5–6). It is inferred that Lev. 17:15 must refer to meat that only is forbidden because it is carcass meat, and that the verse cannot refer to four-legged animals since they are impure from the start, and it cannot refer to non-kosher animals or birds since for them the reference to tom meat would be irrelevant. The only meat which causes impurity only if taken into the mouth to be eaten is that of pure birds not correctly slaughtered. Babli Zevaḥim 105a, Ḥulin121a.? Rebbi Yose said, the carcass of a pure bird has no enclosure¹³⁹It is forbidden to be eaten anywhere, whereas sancta may be treated only in the sacred precinct.; these have an enclosure. Rebbi Mana said, the carcass of a pure bird has an enclosure; the human is its enclosure¹⁴⁰Only the human mouth causes impurity from carcass meat of pure birds.. If it were not so, if he brought a dog, clothed it, and fed it the carcass of a pure bird, would it not make the garments impure in its palate¹⁴¹But since a living animal cannot become impure, textiles worn by a dog eating the carcass of a pure bird remain pure.? Rebbi Eleazar the Southerner said, the enclosure of the carcass of a pure bird is everywhere; the enclosure of those is outside of Jerusalem¹⁴²Cf. Pesaḥim 5, Note 67. Pouring the blood on the altar is qualified as “eating by the altar.” Cf. Babli Zevaḥim 104b..