Talmud su Salmi 61:78
Jerusalem Talmud Shekalim
Why did Rebbi Joḥanan insist to require that traditions should be reported in his name? For also David begged for divine mercy in this respect, as it says, may I dwell in Your tent forever, I shall seek shelter under the cover of Your wings, Selah120Ps. 61:5.. Could David think of living forever? Rather, David said before the Holy One, praise to Him: Master of the World, may I have the merit that my words will be mentioned in synagogues and houses of study. What good does that do to him? Simeon, the son of the Nazir said in the name of Rebbi Isaac If a Sage’s pronouncement in matters of practice is mentioned in this world, the latter’s lips whisper with him in the grave for it is said121Cant. 7:10. Note that in Accadic the root dbb means “to speak”., dripping from the lips of the sleeping ones. Like that softened bunch of grapes, if a person puts his finger on it immediately it drips, so also the lips of the just drip, for if one mentions their pronouncements in matters of practice the latter’s lips whisper in the grave. What good does that do to them? The son of the Nazir says, like one who drinks spiced wine; Rebbi Isaac said, like one who drinks old wine, even though he cannot taste it.
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Jerusalem Talmud Moed Katan
349This and the next paragraph have no relevance for the topic under discussion; they are included since together with the preceding paragraph they formed a unit for transmission both here and in Berakhot2:1 (Notes 53–64). Rebbi Joḥanan was leaning on Rebbi Jacob bar Idi when Rebbi Eleazar saw him and hid himself before him. He said, these two things this Babylonian does to me: First, that he does not greet me, and second, that he does not teach the traditions in my name. He said to him, thus they behave among themselves; the younger one does not greet the older since they observe Boys see me and hide themselves, and old people rose and stood350Job. 21:8.. As they were walking, he saw a Bet Midrash. He351R. Jacob bar Idi. said to him: Here Rebbi Meïr sat and reported traditions in the name of Rebbi Ismael but he never reported traditions in the name of Rebbi Aqiba. He352R. Joḥanan. answered: Everybody knows that Rebbi Meïr was the student of Rebbi Aqiba. He351R. Jacob bar Idi. retorted, everybody knows that Rebbi Eleazar is the student of Rebbi Joḥanan. May one pass by the water statue? He352R. Joḥanan. said to him, do you want to honor it? Pass it by and blind its eyes! He351R. Jacob bar Idi. said to him, Rebbi Eleazar did well that he did not pass before you. He352R. Joḥanan. said to him: Rebbi Jacob bar Idi, you know how to pacify. But Rebbi Joḥanan required that traditions should be reported in his name. Also David begged for divine mercy in this respect, may I dwell in Your tent forever353Ps. 61:5.! Rebbi Phineas, Rebbi Jeremiah, in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan; Could David think of living forever? Rather, David meant: May I have the merit that my words will be mentioned in my name in synagogues and houses of study. What profit does he have from this354Translated following the text in Berakhot. The word אנים used here seems to be a corruption.? The son of Tira355With the other two sources read: “Ben Nezira”; ט is a scribal error for נז. said: If someone mentions a tradition in the name of its author, the latter’s lips whisper with him in the grave. What is the reason? Dripping from the lips ofthe sleeping ones356Cant. 7:10.. Like that bunch of grapes which drips by itself. Rebbi Ḥinena bar Pappus and Rebbi Simon, one said, like one who drinks spiced wine357Latin conditum (vinum)., the other said, like one who drinks old wine, even though he consumed it, its taste remains in his mouth.
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