Talmud do Ozeasza 4:6

How does Rebbi Yose uphold this verse, bring your sacrifices in the morning, etc⁶Since for him the Mishnah has no biblical basis; the cessation of commerce with idolators either is rabbinic or an old popular custom. The entire sermon is reproduced in Yalqut Šim`oni Prophets§542.? The verse speaks about Jeroboam’s kingdom. When Jeroboam became king over Israel he started seducing Israel and said to them come, let us worship pagan worship. Pagan worship is lenient. This is what is written, let us go against Jehudah, cut it down, break it up, and appoint a king in it, the man from Ṭabeal⁷Is. 7:6. The tradition that Ṭabeal is a place rather than a personal name was accepted by the Medieval commentators of Prophets. According to Rashi the name is coded; one has to replace letter nby n+/-11; then טבאל becomes רַמְלֵא, a city founded after the Arab conquest.. Rebbi Abba said, we checked all of Scripture but did not find a place named Ṭabeal. But it treats its worshippers well. The Torah said, selected him from all of the tribes of Israel to be a priest for Me⁸1S. 2:28.. Pagan worship says, he made priests from the fringes of the people⁹1K. 12:31; quoted in the Babli, Qiddušin75b, in the name of R. Joḥanan.. Rebbi La said, from the thorns of the people, the rubbish of the people. The Torah said, the fat of My sacrifice shall not remain until the morning¹⁰Ex. 23:28.; but pagan worship said, bring your sacrifices in the morning³Am. 4:4, speaking of the sinful service of the Golden Calf of Beth El.. The Torah said, it should be eaten on the day of its slaughter and the next day¹¹Lev. 19:6.; but pagan worship said, on the third day your tithes³Am. 4:4, speaking of the sinful service of the Golden Calf of Beth El.. The Torah said, do not sacrifice the blood of My sacrifice on leavened matter¹⁰Ex. 23:28.; but pagan worship said, and burn your thanksgiving offer of leavened matter³Am. 4:4, speaking of the sinful service of the Golden Calf of Beth El.. The Torah said, if you are vowing a vow to the Eternal, your God, do not tarry to fulfill it¹²Deut. 23:22., but pagan worship said, pledge gifts, publicize them^3,Am. 4:4, speaking of the sinful service of the Golden Calf of Beth El.¹³But it is not necessary to fulfill one’s pledge. The reason of the Northern Kingdom’s apostasy is traced to the cost and onerous rules of Torah practice.. Rebbi Yudan, Rebbi Mattaniah’s father, said, the verse only serves to mention the shame of Israel. The day of our king, the princes are sick from wine’s heat, he draws the mockers by his hand¹⁴Hos. 4:5.. On the day when Jeroboam became king over Israel, all of Israel came to him late in the evening and told him, come and worship pagan worship. He told them, it is late in the evening; I am drunk and not drunk¹⁵He claimed that his mental faculties were slightly impaired.. Everybody is drinking; but if you wish, go and come in the morning. That is what is written, for their heart is like an oven while they are lying in ambush; all night long their baker is sleeping.¹⁶Hos. 4:6. All night long their baker did not sleep. In the morning he is burning like fire of a conflagration¹⁶Hos. 4:6.. In the morning they came to him. He told them, I do understand what you want but I am afraid of your Synhedrion lest they kill me. They told him, we shall kill them; this is what is written, that all are glowing like an oven and eat their judges¹⁷Hos.4:7. All of Talmudic literature assumes that the legal system imagined for late Hasmonean rule was that of the Davidic kingdom.. Rebbi Levi said, they killed them, as is written, if a corpse is found¹⁸Deut. 21:1. This sermon derives הֶחֱלוּ in Hos. 4:5 not from חלה “to be sick” but from חלל “to be perforated”.. Rebbi La said, they deposed them; The day of our king, the princes are profaned from wine’s heat^14,Hos. 4:5.¹⁹Deriving הֶחֱלוּ in Hos. 4:5 from חול “to be profane”.; the day when princes were profaned. From wine’s heat, they were addicted to wine. He draws the mockers by his hand: When he saw a serious person he placed two scoffers next to him who asked him, which generation was preferred over all generations? He told them, the generation of the Exodus. But did they not practice pagan worship? He answered them, because they were beloved they were not punished. But they told him, be quiet for the king wants to do the same. Not only that, but they made one and this one made two. He put the one up at Bethel; the other he gave to Dan²⁰1K. 12:29..

BARAITHA.⁷⁶K 20 with variations. For what sin do a man’s children die [young]? R. Eliezer said: For the sin of [unfulfilled] vows, as it is stated, In vain have I smitten your children.⁷⁷Jer. 2, 30. R. Joshua said: For the sin of [neglecting] the study of the Torah, as it is stated, Seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I also will forget thy children.⁷⁸Hosea 4, 6.
GEMARA. What will R. Eliezer do with the verse, Seeing thou hast forgotten, etc.? He needs it [for the following exposition:] It has been taught: When Israel stood at Mount Sinai, the Holy One, blessed be He, said to them, ‘Are you willing to receive the Torah?’ They answered, ‘Yes’. Whereupon He said to them, ‘Produce sureties in the matter’. They replied, ‘Here are our children’. That is what is written, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast Thou founded strength.⁷⁹Ps. 8, 3. He said to them, ‘You offer your children as sureties. If you observe the Sabbath, all will be well; but if not, behold your children are My sureties’;⁸⁰I will call upon them to meet their indebtedness. as it is stated, Seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, etc. How does R. Joshua [deal with the verse quoted by] R. Eliezer? He needs it for the statement, In vain have I smitten your children, they received no correction.⁸¹R. Joshua to maintain his view expounds the verse quoted by R. Eliezer in the light of Jer. 2, 30 that children die for the sin of neglecting the study of the Torah.

Another interpretation of Ye that inflame yourselves among the terebinths: Whoever arouses himself and masturbates forfeits his life, as it is stated, And Er, Judah’s first-born, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him.⁷⁴Gen. 38, 7. His sin was that he prevented pregnancy; cf. Midrash Rabbah, Genesis, LXXXV, 4 (Sonc. ed., p. 792). And whoever deliberately causes an erection is a transgressor, as it is stated, And the thing which he did was evil in the sight of the Lord.⁷⁵ibid. 10; cf. the preceding verse.
Even children meet the Divine Presence, as it is stated, A seed shall serve him; it shall be told of the Lord unto the next generation.⁷⁶Ps. 22, 31; cf. Sanh. 110b (Sonc. ed., p. 761). It shall be told indicates that when God’s glory can be related by a person, i.e. even a child when he is able to speak, he earns his right to a share in the World to Come. For what sin do a man’s children die [young]?⁷⁷Shab. 32b (Sonc. ed., p. 148); cf. Midrash Ecclesiastes 4, 1 (Sonc. ed., p. 110). R. Eliezer said: For the sin of [unfulfilled] vows, as it is said, Suffer not thy mouth to bring thy flesh into guilt … and destroy the work of thy hands.⁷⁸Eccl. 5, 5. R. Nathan said: For the sin of [neglecting] the mezuzah, as it is written, And thou shalt write them upon the doorposts of thy house, and upon thy gates which is followed by that your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children.⁷⁹The prolonged life of the children is made conditional in Deut. 11, 20f., on the fulfilment of the preceding commandment. R. Nehorai said: For the sin of [neglecting] the ẓiẓith, as it is written, Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the innocent poor.⁸⁰Jer. 2, 34; skirts refers to the precept of ẓiẓith. R. Joshua⁸¹GRA. emends to ‘R. Judah the Prince’. said: For the sin of [neglecting the study of] the Torah children die young, as it is stated, Seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I also will forget thy children.⁸²Hos. 4, 6. The parallel in Shab. 32b (Sonc. ed., p. 148) cites Jer. 2, 30. R. ‘Aḳiba said: Whoever does not occupy himself with [the study of] the Torah causes poverty to come upon his children.
What should a man do so that his children shall grow rich and flourish?⁸³Reading with GRA ויתקיימו. Let him fulfil the will of God and the wishes of his wife. This is the will of God: Let him freely distribute his money to the poor, as it is stated, He hath scattered abroad, he hath given to the needy; his righteousness endureth for ever.⁸⁴Ps. 112, 9.