Talmud do Jeremiasza 1:11

“And the city was breached.” It is written, on the Ninth of the month the city was breached²³⁵Jer. 39:2. The date is confirmed 2K. 25:3., and you are saying so? Rebbi Tanḥum bar Ḥanilai said, here is an erroneous computation²³⁶The Babli 28b disagrees and states that the city surrendered on Tammuz 9 to the Babylonians and was breached Tammuz 17 by the Romans.. That is what is written, it was in the twelfth year, on the first of the month, was the Eternal’s word to me, saying: Son of man, since Tyre said about Jerusalem hurrah²³⁷Ez. 26:1–2. The verse makes it clear that the joy was about the destruction of Jerusalem, for which the prophecy gives a date post quem.. What “hurrah”? If you are saying on the first of Av, it still was not burned. If you are saying on the first of Ellul, cannot in one day and night the messenger leave Jerusalem and arrive at Tyre? But here is an erroneous computation²³⁸But Ezechiel implicitly states that Jerusalem was destroyed on Av 1.. Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish. Rebbi Joḥanan said, {a parable} of a king who was sitting and computing computations. They came and told him, your son was kidnapped; his computations became erroneous. He said, let this be the beginning of computations²³⁹What actually was Av 9 is now called Av 1.. Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, {a parable} of a king who was sitting and computing computations. They came and told him, your son was kidnapped and incapacitated; his computations became erroneous. He said, let this be the beginning of computations. Rebbi Mana asked, one understands this that they were erroneous for the past; maybe for the future²⁴⁰Maybe the participants in the destruction, Jeremiah and the author of Kings, erred in the date. But Ezechiel sitting safely in Babylonia and being divinely instructed cannot be assumed to err in his date.? Whether one follows him who said on the ninth of the month, or the one who said on the seventeenth, [in what do they differ?]²⁴¹Corrector’s addition from a source similar to A. There it is clear that one has to read: In what do they differ? Are there not (according to everybody) twenty-one days from the day the city was breached to the day the Temple was destroyed? there are twenty-one days from the day the city was breached to the day the Temple was destroyed. Rebbi Abuna said, an indication²⁴²Greek σημεῑον., I am seeing an almond stick²⁴³Jer. 1:11.. Since this almond tree from sprouting its flower to finishing its fruit needs twenty-one days, so from the day the city was breached to the day the Temple was destroyed twenty-one days. He who says on the Ninth of the month, the Temple was destroyed on the first of Av²⁴⁴The dating in Ez. is consistent with that of Jer. and 2K.; there is no error in the computations.. He who says on the Seventeenth, the Temple was destroyed on the Ninth of Av.