מֵפֵר֙ אֹת֣וֹת בַּדִּ֔ים וְקֹסְמִ֖ים יְהוֹלֵ֑ל מֵשִׁ֧יב חֲכָמִ֛ים אָח֖וֹר וְדַעְתָּ֥ם יְשַׂכֵּֽל׃
是我使說謊者的徵兆失效,使占卜的人變得癲狂;是我使智慧人退後,使他們的知識變為愚拙。
Gittin
He said to him, "If there was a barrel of honey with a serpent wrapped over it, would one not break the barrel for the sake of [getting rid] of the serpent?" He was silent. Rav Yosef - and some say, Rabbi Akiva - would read [this verse to be] about this (Isaiah 44:25), "He turns back the wise and renders their knowledge foolish." He should have said to him, "We take tongs and we take the serpent and kill him and leave the barrel."
Gittin
He said to him, "I am leaving and I will send someone else, but ask something that I can give you." He said to him, "Give me Yavneh and her Sages and the line of Rabban Gamliel and a cure to heal Rabbi Tsadok" Rav Yosef - and some say, Rabbi Akiva - would read [this verse to be] about this (Isaiah 44:25), "He turns back the wise and renders their knowledge foolish." He should have said to him, "Leave us this time."