Rujukan Talmud untuk Yeremia 41:2: Jerusalem Talmud Nedarim, Jerusalem Talmud Taanit & Megillah

⁴¹A similar text in Tosephta 1:4, quoted in Babli 12a, 14a; Šebuot 20a.“What is a prohibition? This loaf is for me as the day of my father’s death⁴²If he keeps the anniversary of his father’s death as a private fast day. In the Babli sources (including the Tosephta) the reference is not to a loaf but to meat and wine, assuming the person had vowed not to eat meat and drink wine at the anniversary of his father’s death., as the day X was killed⁴³In the Babli: As the day Gedaliah ben Aḥiqam was killed (2K. 25:25, Jer. 41:2), which is a fast day by tradition, not by law, and which therefore needs a declaration to be a binding obligation. (In practice, fasting three consecutive years on a particular date creates the equivalent of a vow to fast.), as the day I saw Jerusalem in ruins; that is the prohibition the Torah spoke of⁴⁴“A person who vows a vow to the Eternal or swears an oath to forbid a prohibition to deprive oneself” (Num. 30:3). “If in her husband’s house she vowed, or forbade a prohibition on herself by an oath.” (Num. 30:11). Since the prohibition can refer both to a vow (tied to a material object that can be vowed to sacrificial use) and an oath (not tied to any object), it creates a category by itself..” Rebbi Abba in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan and Rav: Both say, only if he had made a vow about that day⁴⁵If the person did not earlier make a vow that food on the anniversary of his father’s death should be forbidden to him like a dedicated sacrifice or had sworn to the same effect, the reference to that day has no effect. In the Babli, the person quoted is Samuel.. Rebbi Yose asked: If only he had made a vow about that day, why a separate prohibition? He should say on that day⁴⁶Since the status of a prohibition is in doubt as to whether it is a vow or an oath (Note 44), the reference given will determine its status. If the person fasts in consequence of a vow, the additional prohibition is a vow; if it refers to an oath, it is an oath. In no case is a separate category created. The only case in which one could speak of a separate category is if the additional prohibition is made together with the original one while the status is still undefined.!

²³¹This paragraph is repeated again in this Halakhah. Since the later text shows that the text here is incomplete, its correct place is there. Rebbi Simeon ben Yohai stated: So was my teacher Aqiba explaining. So says the Eternal of Hosts, the fast of the fourth, the fast of the fifth, the fast of the seventh, and the fast of the tenth will be for the House of Israel enjoyment and joy²³²Sach. 8:19.. The fast of the fourth is the Seventeenth of Tammuz, the day when the tablets were broken, the daily sacrifice ceased, the city was breached, Apostomos burned the Torah, and put an idol in the Temple. The fast of the fifth is the Ninth of Av, when the Temple was destroyed the first and the second times. The fast of the seventh is the third of Tishre, when Gedalya ben Aḥiqam was murdered²³³Jer. 41:2–3.. The fast of the tenth is the Tenth of Tevet, the day when the King of Babylonia closed in on Jerusalem²³⁴Ez. 24:2..

Rebbi Simeon ben Yoḥai stated: So was my teacher Aqiba explaining. So says the Eternal of Hosts, the fast of the fourth, the fast of the fifth, the fast of the seventh, and the fast of the tenth will be for the House of Israel enjoyment and joy²³²Sach. 8:19.. The fast of the fourth is the Seventeenth of Tammuz, the day when the tablets were broken, the daily sacrifice ceased, the city was breached, Apostomos burned the Torah, and put an idol in the Temple. The fast of the fifth is the Ninth of Av, when the Temple was destroyed the first and the second times. The fast of the seventh is the third of Tishre, when Gedalya ben Aḥiqam was murdered²³³Jer. 41:2–3.. The fast of the tenth is the Tenth of Tevet, the day when the King of Babylonia closed in on Jerusalem²³⁴Ez. 24:2.. That is what is written²⁴⁵Ez. 24:2., the Eternal’s word came to me in the ninth year, in the tenth month, on the tenth of the month, saying: Son of man, write down the name of this day. On this very day the king of Babylonia closed in on Jerusalem. But I am saying that the fast of the tenth is the Fifth of Tevet, the day when the news came to the diaspora. That is what is written²⁴⁶Ez. 33:21., it was in the eleventh year of our exile, in the fifth, on the fifth of the month, the fugitive came to me from Jerusalem, saying, the city was breached. Only that in Judea one fasts on the act, and in the exile on the news. Rebbi Aqiba explains the first last and the last first; but I am explaining the first first and the last last²⁴⁷I am following the order of verses in Ez.; and I hold my words more intelligible than Rebbi Aqiba’s words.