Halakhah su Geremia 6:78

(Reish) ”Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says, ‘Anyone who has money and lends it without interest – the verse says about him (Ps. 15:5), “He who has not given his money with interest, etc., he who does these shall never collapse.” Behold, you learn about anyone who lends with interest, [that] his property does collapse.’ [It was asked about this], ‘But we see those who do not lend with interest and it [actually] collapses?’ Rabbi Eliezer⁶²Our text of the Talmud has Rabbi Elazar. [answered], ‘Those collapse but rise, whereas [the properties of those who lend with interest] collapse and do not rise again’” (Bava Metzia 71a). And Rashi, may his memory be blessed, explains, “Such is implied in the verse – ‘he who does these shall never (lo… leolam, which can also be translated as, not forever) collapse’ – meaning, even if he collapses, his collapse is not a permanent collapse. But one who lends with interest collapses forever.” See there. And ostensibly, it can be wondered [that] in the same way that it was asked, “But we see those who do not lend with interest and it collapses,” so too [could we ask], “But we see those who do not lend with interest and it collapses and it does not rise [again]?” And it appears to me [that the answer is from] that which is found in the Midrash on Parashat Matot (Bamidbar Rabbah 22:8), ‘For it is not from the east or the west or the wilderness of the mountains’ (Ps. 75:7) – [wealth] is not from that which man goes out to the east and casts out to sea, nor from the wilderness of the mountains. Rather, the Lord brings down and also raises. And even though He brings this one down, He raises that one up, and it is [like] a spinning wheel.” And they said there, “Why are [properties] called nekhasim? Because they are covered (nekhusim) from this one and revealed to that one. And why are [common coins] called zuzim? Because they move (zazim) from this one to that one.” See there. Hence the properties of the one who lends with interest collapse, and do not rise in any [other] place. And this is [the meaning of] Rashi’s explanation - “Such is implied in the verse […], his collapse is not a collapse in the world (another reading of leolam)” – meaning that [his properties] will nevertheless rise for another person someplace in the world. And so the properties will remain in the world. This is not the case with the one who lends with interest – his wealth does not rise at all for any man in the world. And so is it elucidated in the Midrash (Shemot Rabbah 31:4), “‘They shall throw their silver into the streets, and their gold shall be treated as something unclean’ (Ezek. 7:19) – [these are those who lend with interest].” And also there, “He called it (Jer. 6:30), ‘Rejected money.’” But this is not the case with other [people who lend without interest] that go down – even though they do not rise [again], their properties rise.